Just a quick post to put into context how much everything is changing considering both a worsening bite and how quickly my teeth still seem to be moving! It's hard to believe that I used to put up with that really wierd plastic brace just because my bite collided, all to blame because my teeth thought they were ahead of the game and tried to fix things themselves by making my bite appear better than it actually was. My true bite seems to have really taken form now, like it's appeared all of a sudden. I'd noticed it getting worse with my progression from my first fixed brace, to the second and more conventional 'train track' brace, but now there's such a noticeable gap between both jaws. I've also started noticing that my housemates and people at uni are quite often mishearing me when I speak to them. It seems to take alot more time to form sounds such as p's and f's, as if my lower jaw is literally getting in the way, and it feels as if my brain is too far ahead in comparison to the act of physically forming the shapes and sounds of words. Has anyone else noticed this as their orthodontic work has taken effect?

I thought I'd put up an okish photo to hopefully balance to more awful ones to follow. A fairly significant gap can still be seen even from a headshot.

Horrible photo! But does justice to the worsening bite. Note the gap as evidence for some speedy orthodontic work!

Profile shot ):

A funny part of waiting for the braces to do their stuff is all the gaps that appear as the teeth are straigtening, only to be replaced by a tooth as it has more room, creating another gap. It reminds me of those sliding puzzles that you get online or something, before you can create the final picture you have to slide all those pieces in a logical order. Also that hefty gap that can be seen in the middle photo appeared after a mere two days after my appointment! That seemed pretty crazy to me. I also keep on forgetting that I'm now minus 8 teeth, which probably plays a huge part in how fast the orthodontics are working.

While all of this progress is good news (even the worsening bite), I've also had my first ever brace accident, concerning an icecube. I feel so incredibly stupid about the whole thing, said icecube was pretty melted down at the end of this drink, then swig and crunch. I can't get seen in Canterbury as I'm a patient at my hopsital at home, and I don't know any NHS people who would be able to fix it for me. Also my ortho is a locum and is only in my hospital one day of the week, so she's pretty booked up. I don't think the damage is too serious though, the wire right at the end has popped out the bracket, I guess the easiest way to describe it is excess wire that the ortho must have screwed into the bracket somehow. The rest of the wire is very intact so I'm hoping it's not slowing down anything, and if it is, it's my theory that most of the orthodontic work takes effect in the first couple of weeks after an appointment, and the six week period is a pretty good way to give patients a relief from the pain you get after having braces tightened. Saying that, I could be completely wrong.

It would be ridiculous to try and take a photo of this, so have an example. Result of an icecube :P

I'll stop there, I feel like I've gone on a bit. Whenever I post this always seems to happen, not entirely sure what to write then boom! Apologies for the ramblings, especially if it's boring. So to summarise, worsening bite, teeth moving and broken brace has happened since my last post. Hoping that Laura and Lindsay are recovering well and best of luck to Max, Ellie and Britany with their upcoming surgeries as well as everybody elses treatments! B x

Hi!
Haven't posted on here since my last visit to the hospital, however there is an appointment coming up in just over a week. I also think things are happening in a less "quick" way, my teeth have moved so much in these few months. However the less dramatic and more slight changes my teeth have to undergo I feel are happening more slowly than those more noticeable changes before. Still, it'll be interesting to see the progress at the next appointment!
But yes, reason for posting is that I found this interesting thread on Reddit that my friend from uni shared with me (: It's the results of someones surgery 6 months on, they used to have a really pronounced underbite and from what I can see the surgery worked really well. However the interesting part is in the huge amount of comments this thread received, asking all sorts of questions, plus details of other people's experiences. The most interesting concept I found is the medical vs psychological/cosmetic benefits.
 I feel the benefits are a good mix of the two, to have a functioning bite, get rid of TMJD pain etc, and improve aesthetic, which seems to be the view of many who've contributed to the thread. When I've told people about the whole process most automatically assume it's entirely cosmetic which almost makes me feel ashamed, it makes me think of those who go under the knife for breast enlargements or tummy tucks. But there's no denying a part of me does want this surgery for those benefits, especially after enduring school! What do others think about the whole medical/cosmetic "debate" concerning surgery? It's something I've been struggling to come to terms with for years, people have told me I don't need it because they think it's purely cosmetic, when clearly the hospital and myself feel differently. After all it does come under the NHS!
I'll stop waffling anyways, and post the link >  http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/ryg1h/iama_19_yo_male_who_had_surgery_on_both_jaws_6/

Hope everyone is getting on  well with their treatments.
B x

Hi!
I am now back from my long journey to and from home, and I have to say I'm pretty knackered. As if the train journey by itself wasn't enough, the hospital was running late which meant I had to peg it to catch the right train, using my violin as a very useful battering ram on anyone that got in my way. I barely made it! But I got to quartet ok, so that made people happy I guess.

Travelling through Kent, "The Garden of England".  It just looks like fields to me, but whatever floats your boat (:

To get home for my hospital appointments I always have to travel through London, which can be pretty interesting. St. Pancras International with their swish Olympics sign.

I took the liberty of demolishing pancakes before my appointment. I made this with one of Agnes' eggs (I have pet chickens)

But yes, onto the exciting stuff. I have the full set of works now, so no more weird elastic plastic yellow thing that made my teeth look horrible! It's all shiny shiny now. I was actually really surprised, I was holding onto a tiny bit of hope this might happen, and thinking in reality I would only get a couple more brackets to move the next lot of teeth along without breaking my brace. But now I know I wasn't imagining the changes in my face and jaw, my bite has worsened enough that I can wear the full set of more conventional fixed braces without destroying them! In a way it's kinda scaring me how fast everything's moving (literally!) But it's a good thing so I'm not complaining (:

Demonstrating how yellow the plastic part of my brace got.                        Fully braced and ready to go ^-^

That's pretty much a wrap for now! I'm experiencing some pain, which Ibuprofen helps a little. Playing it safe by eating pasta and soft things for now. I think the thing that's probably gonna annoy me the most is ulcers... I have some already, and this wasn't a problem at all with the lower braces.

One more thing, when I was at home I found THIS photo!

This is me and my gran, I think I had just turned 8 at the time. It's not good quality as it's been scanned in, but hopefully you can see my gran also has an underbite (she never got it treated). Please ignore my retarded expression, evidently I was happy ha. I was around 8 or 9 when the dentist discovered my bite and I got referred to the local orthodontist. By the time I got referred to the hospital I was 9. 

I'm gonna go now as this has been another long post. It looks ridiculously warm outside (apparently it's 18 degrees!) so I should probably make the most of that.
Hope everything is going great for everyone else (:
B x

Yo! The next hopsital appointment has creeped up pretty quickly, so I'm heading home on the usual 2 hour journey tomorrow (: This should be pretty interesting, cos there's a definite gap formed between both jaws as a result of the braces, which makes me wonder if I'm gonna have the rest of my brackets put on. I really hope this is the case so I can get rid of this ghastly rubbery thing on my top teeth! Over it's six week lifespan, it gets stained yellow by food and doesn't look too attractive. At least metal generally looks clean and shiny.

As the gap between my jaws is getting worse from my teeth becoming straighter, I've noticed even more changes in my face, and not only from looking at my profile. I had an concert with my University Symphony Orcherstra and my parents went a bit snappy happy. I shall demonstrate thus...

You can't see my profile a great deal in the top two but I can tell there's a difference there. And I also look really gormless/severe haha. Or Mahler and Wagner could be doing that to my face The bottom photo isn't very clear, but probably more of a profile shot going on there.
These changes are probably more noticeable to myself and fellow underbiters.
I've gotten into the annoying habit of studying other people's jaw lines, which probably means I'm gonna notice these things in myself and others. Self concious much?

Twas a pretty awesome weekend though, and my parents stayed in Canters at the Holiday Inn ^-^
If you're not bored of photos here's another one of me and my mum ^-^
 Countless people have said we look so alike. Which makes me wonder if after the surgery we'll look so alike it's scary? Interesting fact though - my gran (my mum's mum) also has an underbite. Apparently it can be genetic, this whole malloclusion malarkey.

I was starting to get fed up with hospitals but I'm quite looking forward to this visit. I'm inbetween hospitals haha. I'm being treated at Kent & Canterbury for something not at all jaw related, (an impressive TWENTY FIVE cysts, yikes!) so going in for scans and consultations there and shedding my precious student loan to get to the Lister is fairly annoying. Such is life, apparently more complex than it needs to be. However we shall see what this hospital appointment brings, apart from renewed obssessive pasta and soup consumption!

Hope everyone elses treatments are going well (:
B x

Oh my days.

Ok so I've only just fully appreciated the amount of time day surgery took with eight extractions and all.

(Waiting lists, pre-assesment, recovering, healing yadayadayada)

I've had my top brace on for 12 weeks (tightened twice) and my bottom brace on for 6 weeks (tightened once)

12 weeks of orthodontics... and LOOK :D:D:D

Septermber 2010 (Fresher)                                                                                  January 2012 ^^ new camera for Chirstmas!

I'm actually so happy. I've had nowhere near as much pain as I did when I first got the bottom braces on. I've also been listening to Frank Turner which always makes me smile like a loon XD

My orthodontist said things have been moving well and it's all looking good. Nothing has been said, but this could mean my orthognathic surgery could be sooner that I've always thought. It's always seemed eons into the future. Now it feels like it's actually gonna happen. 

:D:D:D:D:D:D

Hi all!

Oh my days the pain has GONE! :D Seems pretty trivial looking back at it, but it seems that anything concerning physical pain seems that way, in the same kinda sense with my day surgery back in Febuary. It took a little over a week before I could eat without wanting to scream at my food. Also my jaw has unlocked, something else which was very annoying that I forgot to mention in my last post (sorry!)

It's now been a couple of weeks since I got the new addition that is my lower fixed brace fitted, and although my teeth haven't appeared to change that much, I am definitely noticing the drawbacks of the "worsening" profile that goes with this treatment. I know it has to get worse to get better, before surgery happens. Whenever I smile with my mouth closed I reckon it looks like I'm doing some serious lemon sucking or something. However my top teeth are most certainly getting their arses kicked into action, the gaps from the extraction of the 7th and 8th teeth in the tooth stealing journey are closing up nicely, meaning that there's room for everyone else to shuffle along (:

Also I have no idea what I'd do without those odd interdental toothbrushes. Actual life saver (':

Successful chicken capture (meet Wilma ^-^) and lemon sucking galore!

Now back for Christmas from uni. I don't keep chickens in Canterbury haha, although that would be really quite awesome ^-^ Gah they're so cute! :3

Well what to say? Things have finally started to happen (:
So have an uber fun checklist of what's happened so far.

1. Six molars (including wisdoms) removed under GA
2. Molar bands fixed on lower arch
3. Two more big teeth taken out in the dentists to make more room (eight teeth so far!)
4. Upper molar bands fitted, 2 brackets and a wierd wire covered in plastic to move teeth (I can't have blocks on the front otherwise I'll break them with my bite) D:
5. Lower brace completley fitted, upper wierder brace tightened.

These things seems to have happened in a pretty random order, I never know what to expect when I visit the orthodontist :P I thought I was gonna get my bite disengaged, but that hasn't happened. I am quite relieved by this fact :D

All I can say now is that I have never been so angry at cereal in my life. Yes my bran flakes were mocking me this morning. Time wise it took me half an hour to eat them, and a whole 5 mintues to eat a malted milk.

Paracetamol is also a god send. I honestly wanted to rip my face off yesterday, I think I underestimated the pain of first getting used to fixed braces XD

Now a picture to demonstrate the wierdness that is my top brace (completley fixed) and my more conventional, newer lower brace.

I look odd but meh (:

On a different, unrelated note, I can't believe how fast time has gone! Now coming to the end of my first term of my second year of uni, which I have really really enjoyed. I have a house instead of halls, I've chosen the modules I want to study and enjoy, doing really well with violin (which is a good thing to hear from Carmel I guess) and generally getting on well with life.

And then Christmas I guess? Gives me a while to break in my braces before the ultimate test that is Christmas dinner :P:P